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Fact check: Does Palin have more 'experience' than Obama and Biden combined?
News Type: Opinion — Seeded on Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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The Statement
Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, in an interview October 31 on ABC's "Good Morning America," praised his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, saying in part that she has "more experience than Senator Biden and Senator Obama put together."...
...The Facts:
McCain doesn't clarify what he means by "experience." But during the campaign, Palin, 44, has said she has ore governmental "executive experience" than Obama...
...The Verdict:
Misleading. McCain didn't use the caveat "executive experience." Obama and Biden combined have four times the amount of elected office experience than Palin. McCain himself has more than twice the amount of experience.
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{"commentId":3813513,"authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}
This can't look too good for McCain and Palin, especially if you read the full article...
The Statement
Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, in an interview October 31 on ABC's "Good Morning America," praised his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, saying in part that she has "more experience than Senator Biden and Senator Obama put together."
Get the facts!
The Facts:
McCain doesn't clarify what he means by "experience." But during the campaign, Palin, 44, has said she has ore governmental "executive experience" than Obama.
She served as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, from 1996 to 2002, and has been governor of that state since December 2006, a total of nearly eight years executive experience. She also served for four years on Wasilla's City Council.
Obama and Biden have held elected posts as lawmakers, but have not, like Palin, served in elected executive posts, such as mayor or governor. However, they have around four times the amount of elected office experience combined than Palin.
Obama, 47, has 11 years and around eight months of experience. He served in the Illinois State Senate from January 1997 to November 2004. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in Illinois in 2004 and was sworn in on January 3, 2005.
Biden, 65, has 37 years of elected office experience. He served two years on the New Castle County Council in Delaware and then was elected to the U.S. Senate in Delaware in 1972. He was sworn into the Senate on January 5, 1973, and has served there since.
McCain, 72, himself has more elected office experience than Palin, with nearly 26 years of experience in Congress. He was elected to the House in Arizona in 1982 and then was elected to the Senate in 1986.
The Verdict:
Misleading. McCain didn't use the caveat "executive experience." Obama and Biden combined have four times the amount of elected office experience than Palin. McCain himself has more than twice the amount of experience.
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- 1 vote
#1 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:05 PM EDT{"commentId":3813768,"authorDomain":"tschreck"}
especially if you read the full article...
well THAT explains the right's support of ms phailin.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3814180,"authorDomain":"Bor"}
Fact checking the Fact Checkers,
what a load of bull..
Clary just words play.
He wrongly assumed that the idiots at Fact checking will know what he meant to say.
Obama is allowed to say we have 57 states, and that is excusable? ( form a Professor that teaches our Constitution)
I see that (57 states) about same error as a pilot how forgets to say Weals Down to the co pilot while landing a plane. Just a minor gaffe?
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3825294,"authorDomain":"deortrious81"}
Obama has experience. Check out below:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
But we need results!
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{"commentId":3813690,"authorDomain":"sha-1"}
When I heard that, it was a WTF moment. I asked myself, does John Mccain REALLY think we are THAT stupid? Sadly this is NOT the first time I've thought this about Mccain. It was such a stupid comment, one would have expected it out of Palins mouth.
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#2 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:22 PM EDT{"commentId":3813707,"authorDomain":"taytaytaygen"}
Do we really need a fact check for this. I mean come on any objective observer can tell you Palin is not ready for the position to which she seeks.
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- 4 votes
#3 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:24 PM EDT{"commentId":3814233,"authorDomain":"Bor"}
Palin is clearly qualified for the VP position.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3814299,"authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}
Palin is clearly qualified for the VP position.
And those qualifications are?...
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{"commentId":3814370,"authorDomain":"Bor"}
have you not been paying attention! again?
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3814404,"authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}
Actually, I have been, which is why I'm asking that question.
Also, why is she being cited as one of the reasons why people from her own party stated that they are supproting Obama?
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3813785,"authorDomain":"phillyinthe323"}
palin intellectually just isnt smart
as a person.....
thats what bothers me
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- 1 vote
#4 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:31 PM EDT{"commentId":3814246,"authorDomain":"Bor"}
Why don't you try running for a Governor, or even just a Major since you are so smart.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3814285,"authorDomain":"NowYouSee"}
Absolutely.
It should disqualify her, if her IQ has been reported correctly at about an 83 on one of the fancy white guy named tests (take them for what they are worth) with the average being 100, how does it make sense to allow this woman to be this close to the presidency? We would be saying, in effect that "I want a person that is sitting 17 points below the national average in a range termed "dull normal" to be President of this country at this time in history". Because, that is in effect what we do by electing McCain without a thorough examination of his medical records. He is 73, has had cancer multiple times, I'm not even sure, as we couldn't be without his medical records. Do you realize how dumb that would be, why hire a human who is that old. He is not in his prime. And then Palin. Are you kidding me?!
If we allow this to happen, as a nation, we will have fallen. The nation is the citizenry. Its time for everyone to become accountable again. This is our duty. We need to make the obvious choice, for all the reasons why Barack might not be a perfect candidate, he is obviously much better than what the democraps usually offer us. But they have, and he could be goooood.Or he could struggle, yea know, we are handing him a 10 trillion dollar debt and 8 years of Bush taking a collective dump on the word or opinion of anyone else in the world community. He is obviuosly better than mccain.
Please, anyone who is still on the fence think about it.
1)He's 73, and has not released us his medical records in full. The time he did was a phony session, I want days, or weeks, or months. You are running for President Mr. McCain, that info is absolutely something in the "Need To Know" category of information. , thats just how this game works.
2.)She has an IQ of 83...
Really?
Really?
Obama and Biden calm, cool, and efficient. Obama has already established teams of people to research who should be hired for the entire governmental system. He is talking about a rational overhaul, of everything. We need this. Bush has a record low approval rating, we obviously mostly feel the same way. Obama and Biden are ready to go. They are the best option even with any of their perceived short commings. We need to be accountable and they are calling on us to do that. Everyone voice will be heard at this table as it HAS TO BE FOR A DEMOCRACY TO WORK. We need to stop hating as much. End of story.
McCain and Palin or Obama and Biden?
This is a choice our country cannot afford to mess up. Its obvious, only the far right wing will hold back *as we need for democracy to work*, but thats fine, its time we centralize this country and come up with a smart and balanced way to go about the business of living.
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- 3 votes
{"commentId":3813830,"authorDomain":"mblanco53"}
We ask the "experience" question in completely the wrong way. As Colin Powell said, experience is helpful, but what you're really looking for is judgment. Experience can sometimes be counterproductive. An inappropriate use of experience can cause you to apply old solutions to new situations, with disastrous results.
The point is that both McCain and Palin have demonstrated that their judgment is very questionable. When McCain picked Palin, he demonstrated flawed judgment. Pretty much everything we've seen from Palin indicates she has now judgment, just ideology.
We know three things about Obama. He is smart, deliberative, and careful. He definitely leans left, like Bill Clinton, but he understands that he can't have everything his way. Ideological presidents are never successful, and Obama knows it.
I'll take the guy whose the former president of the Harvard Law Review any time.
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- 2 votes
#5 - Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:34 PM EDT{"commentId":3813865,"authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}
We ask the "experience" question in completely the wrong way. As Colin Powell said, experience is helpful, but what you're really looking for is judgment. Experience can sometimes be counterproductive. An inappropriate use of experience can cause you to apply old solutions to new situations, with disastrous results.
The point is that both McCain and Palin have demonstrated that their judgment is very questionable. When McCain picked Palin, he demonstrated flawed judgment. Pretty much everything we've seen from Palin indicates she has now judgment, just ideology.
Good point, Mike.
I would have to say that common sense as well as judgement is important in a President and I don't think that McCain and Palin have exhibited any common sense during the last two months of the campaign.
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- 1 vote
{"commentId":3814078,"authorDomain":"Tinaorange"}
Yes. She Does. At Hate, Racism, Jealousy, Greed, Feeblemindedness; Terror stirring amongst Americans; Over-spending Americans tax monies; Not properly representing women; Naiveness; Lying, Unhappy.
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- 1 vote
#6 - Sat Nov 1, 2008 12:00 AM EDT{"commentId":3814335,"authorDomain":"Bor"}
And not to forget Obama:
Muslim, Radical, Racist, Terrorist, Socialist/Communist, Liar, Scam bag, Selfish, Arrogant,
And to finalize: the loves qualified ever to run for the office.
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- 2 votes
{"commentId":3814509,"authorDomain":"alec5649"}
I'm sure that Joe the Plumber has a lot of experience snaking out toilets, even though he's not licensed to do so. I know a lot of people who have been at their jobs for decades, although they're not very good at it.
When Gov. Palin's I.Q. exceeds her age, maybe she can interview for Federal employment. Until then, I choose to vote for intelligent thoughtfulness first.
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- 4 votes
#7 - Sat Nov 1, 2008 12:47 AM EDT{"commentId":3824688,"authorDomain":"axxiz144"}
Until then, I choose to vote for intelligent thoughtfulness first.
Then I imagine it would come as no surprise to you that people who are neither intelligent or thoughtful will vote their fears, not their hopes.
I wonder if that has anything to do with why one of the presidential campaigns is focusing almost exclusively on fear, and one is focusing almost exclusively on hope.
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- 1 vote
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