Newt Gingrich said that America’s problem are the result of the country’s growing secularism, telling the FAMiLY Leader’s Thanksgiving Family Forum, “A country that has been now since 1963 relentlessly in the courts driving God out of public life shouldn’t be surprised at all the problems we have. Because we’ve in fact attempted to create a secular country, which I think is frankly a nightmare.”
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I guess that Gingrich, a "historian", doesn't want to acknowledge that the US has always been a secular country...
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Tattoo the word Christian on his forehead and force him to live in a Muslim country for a year.
See if he changes his attitude regarding secularism.
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Newt is trying to portray himself as a good Christian. Does anybody really fall for that?
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The US has not always been a secular country. Secular people would not of written anything about a Creator in the Declaration of Independence then.
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The US has not always been a secular country.
Yes, it has been...
according to Steve Waldman, founding editor of beliefnet.com and the author of a terrific new book, Founding Faith. Waldman has read just about every available thing that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and the rest said and wrote, publicly and privately, about their personal theological views. He comes to two conclusions. First, all the Founders saw themselves as Christians and believed that God in one way or another guides human affairs. So, score one for the religious right. Second, not a single one of the main Founders actually believed in the divinity of Jesus, which is the central tenet of the Christian faith. Score one for the secular left.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_03/013313.php
"The United States have adventured upon a great and noble experiment, which is believed to have been hazarded in the absence of all previous precedent -- that of total separation of Church and State. No religious establishment by law exists among us. The conscience is left free from all restraint and each is permitted to worship his Maker after his own judgment. The offices of the Government are open alike to all. No tithes are levied to support an established Hierarchy, nor is the fallible judgment of man set up as the sure and infallible creed of faith. The Mohammedan, if he will to come among us would have the privilege guaranteed to him by the constitution to worship according to the Koran; and the East Indian might erect a shrine to Brahma, if it so pleased him. Such is the spirit of toleration inculcated by our political Institutions."
Was Tyler too minor a president to be considered an authority on whether the U.S. is a Christian republic or not? Here's George Washington in a letter to the Hebrew Congregation of Newport, Rhode Island in 1790: "The citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy -- a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support ... May the children of the stock of Abraham who dwell in this land continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants -- while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid."
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/04/14/christian_nation/
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen,—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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Newt's a pretty religious guy, at least when he has his pants on.....*rimshot*.............C'ya Teavangelicals!
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super...most believe in a 'god' but as you know that does not make one religious or for that matter spiritual, and your right non of the big names at the founding of the republican believed JC was God....so what does that do for evangelical christianity, as a matter of fact its impact on christianity in America today...
we are secular and secular we will be..if not we will collapse and there would be national ruin.
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Remember, it doesn't matter what he does, the people need someone to tell them what to do.
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When I hear the word "creator", I don't equate that as God. I actually could believe in a creator, but not the one the christians call God.
Man is now a creator.
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