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Once again, speculators behind sharply rising oil and gasoline prices

Seeded on Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:24 PM EST
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U.S. demand for oil and refined products — including gasoline — is down sharply from last year, so much that United States has actually become a net exporter of gasoline, unable to consume all that it makes.

Yet oil and gasoline prices are surging.

On Tuesday, oil rose past $106 a barrel and gasoline averaged $3.57 a gallon — thanks again in no small part to rampant financial speculation on top of fears of supply disruptions.

The ostensible reason for the climb of crude prices on the New York Mercantile Exchange, where contracts for future delivery of oil are traded, is growing fear of a military confrontation with Iran in the Persian Gulf's Strait of Hormuz, through which 20 percent of the world's oil passes.

Other factors driving up prices include last month's bankruptcy of Petroplus, a big European refiner, and a recent BP refinery fire in Washington state that's temporarily crimped gasoline supply along the West Coast; gas now costs an average of $4.04 a gallon in California.

While tension over Iran has ratcheted up over the last few months, the price of oil and gasoline has leaped far beyond conventional supply and demand variables. Financial speculators are piling into the market, torquing the Iranian fear factor into ever-higher prices.

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"Speculation is now part of the DNA of oil prices. You cannot separate the two anymore. There is no demarcation," said Fadel Gheit, a 30-year veteran of energy markets and an analyst at Oppenheimer & Co. "I still remain convinced oil prices are inflated."

Consider that light, sweet crude trading on the NYMEX changed hands at $79.20 a barrel just four months ago, but soared past $106 a barrel Tuesday afternoon, partly on news that Iran would halt shipment of oil to Britain and France. But those countries already had stopped buying Iranian oil. And Didier Houssin, the International Energy Agency's director for energy markets and security, said that "there are alternative supplies that can make up for any loss of Iranian exports," The Wall Street Journal reported.

Still, oil's price shot up because it trades in financial markets, where Wall Street firms and other big financial players dominate the trading of oil, even though they have no intention of ever taking possession of the oil whose contracts they are trading.

Since oil prices are the biggest component in the price of gasoline, pump prices are soaring. AAA said Tuesday that the nationwide average price for a gallon of gasoline stood at $3.57, compared with $3.38 a month ago and $3.17 a year ago. It takes about $6 more to fill up the tank than it did this time last year — and last year's gasoline-price surge helped take the steam out of the economic recovery.

Defining what percentage of today's high oil and gasoline prices is due to excessive speculation, driven by Iran fears, is something of a guessing game.

"I put the Iran security premium at about $8 to $10 (a barrel) at this point, which still puts crude at about $90 or $95," said John Kilduff, a veteran energy analyst at AgainCapital in New York.

The fear premium is the froth above what prices would be absent fears of a supply disruption— somewhere in the $80 to $85 range for a barrel of crude oil. It means that even with the extra cost put on oil from Iran fears, prices are at least another $10 higher than what demand fundamentals would dictate.

Why? Financial speculators.

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Reply#1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:26 PM EST
easyjjgrand3

Why I can't believe it's not Obama's fault.

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Reply#2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:45 AM EST
bestquest

fear factor or fraud factor?

three months or more ago, oil was sold from the USA strategic reserve to disrupt speculation. Did not work one iota.

If price is at high tide, sell a whole lot and see what happens. The US treasury will sure welcome some dollars.

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Reply#3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:46 AM EST
Radical_Centrist

This speculation nonsense has been going on for years, and in fact brought up in the reports on commodities prices each time oil prices spike in response to some world event or potential world event. But then, when the media does an actual story on the price of oil, they always have some industry wank or "expert" who makes the claim that prices have nothing to do with speculation, that contrary to logic, common sense or direct observation, oil prices are a direct reflection of world demand for oil and that's the end of that.

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Reply#4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:15 AM EST
Shelby Davenport

This happens every time the price of gas goes up. Coincidentally, this is always the time when some damned refinery goes off line for some reason. So everyone screams and yells and nothing happens, year after year after year.

Speculation IS a huge part of the reason why gas goes up - always around some world crisis. Fact is, extraction in the U.S. is at an all time high and as the report said, we have more gasoline than we can use (hmmm, another reason why refineries go off line?).

It's the same old cycle, over and over again. We need to get speculation OUT of petroleum pricing. And (how radical...) we need to make alternative sources of energy a national security priority.

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Reply#5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:45 AM EST
RackNStack

I'm not a fan of Hugo Chavez or communism......but the whole 'seize all oil companies and nationalize the asset' seems like a damn good idea right about now...

    Reply#6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:43 PM EST
    Shelby Davenport

    Banks, too?

    8-)

      #6.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:59 PM EST
      bestquest

      Shelby,

      when the chicago banks purchased the detroit banks, I wondered who the auto execs and suppliers could talk too in Chicago, who have not auto savvy.

      So, rolling back banks to within one states border solves too big to fail, solves being too far from the customers, solves some of the unethical - criminal - false bubbles.

        #6.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:52 PM EST
        Stumpjumper

        RackNStack.

        How are you going to nationalize BP which is NOT a U.S. company? Do you just kick them out of the U.S.?

          #6.3 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:40 AM EST
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          Castor Bridge

          That's what we get for putting an oil man in the White House. Oh, wait a minute. That only applied to Bush.

          Want to lower the price of gasoline? Build more refineries and the crude oil pipeline from Canada to the refineries. This ain't rocket science folks.

            Reply#7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:54 PM EST
            Shelby Davenport

            And it ain't the answer that you're getting from Faux News! Not gunna do it, Castor.

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            #7.1 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:40 PM EST
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