MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell on Wednesday told anti-tax lobbyist Grover Norquist that he was living in an “Alice in Wonderland world” after he claimed that Republican lawmakers had not violated the no-tax pledge by voting in favor of a fiscal cliff compromise that hiked taxes on the richest Americans.

“Why were you in favor of this?” Mitchell asked Norquist during a Wednesday interview. “This is the first tax increase Republicans have voted for in 20 years.”

“Because, of course, no Republican voted for a tax increase,” the Americans for Tax Reform founder insisted. “What happened was [President Barack] Obama had this Sword of Damocles over the heads of the American people with a $5 trillion tax increase over that next decade that would happen automatically unless the House, Senate and president voted on something.”